Good morning. Thank you for being here. We are now nine days away from the inauguration of the next President and Vice President of the United States. It’s an opportunity to be here today to allow the president-elect to take your questions. After the President-elect makes some remarks, he will introduce Ms. Sheri Dillon, a prominent attorney in Washington D.C. with the prestigious firm of Morgan Lewis who structured the agreement pursuant to the president's business arrangements. And she will give brief remarks.
Before we start, I want to bring your attention to a few points on the report that was published in BuzzFeed last night. It is frankly outrageous and highly irresponsible for a left-wing blog that was openly hostile to the President-elect’s campaign to drop highly salacious and flat-out false information on the Internet just days before he takes the oath of office.
According to BuzzFeed's own editor, there are some serious reasons to doubt the allegations in the report. The executive editor of the New York Times also dismissed the report by saying it was, quote, “totally unsubstantiated,” echoing the concerns that many other reporters expressed on the Internet.
The fact that BuzzFeed and CNN made the decision to run with this unsubstantiated claim is a sad and pathetic attempt to get clicks. The report is not an intelligence report, plain and simple.
BuzzFeed and CNN both reported on Tuesday about documents alleging that “Russian operatives claim to have compromising personal and financial information about Mr. Trump,” as CNN reported, though the two news organizations presented the information in vastly different ways. CNN mostly focused on who had seen the documents and when, citing unnamed sources and U.S. officials in different places. However, CNN said that while it had reviewed the “35-page compilation of the memos” alleging that link, it was “not reporting on details of the memos, as it has not independently corroborated the specific allegations.” BuzzFeed, meanwhile, presented a 35-page document it said was the dossier of memos, saying it was doing so “so that Americans can make up their own minds about allegations about the president-elect that have circulated at the highest levels of the US government.” Here’s what NPR has reported.
One issue that the report talked about was the relationship of three individuals associated with the campaign. These three individuals, Paul Manafort, Michael Cohen, and Carter Page. Carter Page is an individual who the President-elect does not know and was put on notice months ago by the campaign.
Former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort denied the allegations to NPR. “I have never had any ties to Russia or Putin," Manafort said in a text message. "The references to me regarding speaking to [former Trump foreign policy adviser] Carter Page and Michael Cohen are totally wrong and not true."
In an interview with the Washington Post in March of 2016, Trump named “Carter Page, Ph.D.,” among others, in response to a question about who would be on his foreign policy team.
Paul Manafort has adamantly denied any of this involvement, and Michael Cohen, who is said to have visited Prague in August and September, did not leave or enter the United States during this time. We asked him to produce his passport to confirm his whereabouts on the dates in question. And there was no doubt that he was not in Prague.
In fact, Mr. Cohen has ever been in Prague. A new report actually suggests that Michael Cohen was at the University of Southern California with his son at a baseball game. One report now suggested apparently it is another Michael Cohen:.
A passport would not necessarily show whether a person had or had not traveled to the Czech Republic. As Yahoo News’ Hunter Walker explained on Wednesday, “While Cohen’s passport didn’t seem to contain stamps from the Czech Republic, he wouldn’t necessarily need to have one if he visited the country. The Czech Republic is part of the Schengen Area, a group of 26 European countries that have a border agreement.” However, as Pence alludes to, there were indeed reports on Tuesday that two different Michael Cohens could have been confused here. CNN’s Jake Tapper reported, “People tried to run that down and concluded it was a different Michael Cohen. It was a Michael Cohen with a passport from another country, same birth year, different birth date” (as quoted by Mediaite). In addition, Cohen has denied that he made such a trip, as NPR has reported.
For all the talk lately about fake news, this political witch hunt by some in the media is based on some of the most flimsy reporting and is frankly shameful and disgraceful. With that, it is my honor to introduce the next Vice President of the United States, Mike Pence.
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We are nine days away from the inauguration of the 45th President of the United States of America.
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I am profoundly honored and humbled that I will take the oath of office to serve as vice president of the United States nine days from today. But I'm even more honored to stand shoulder to shoulder with a new President who will Make America Great Again.
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Now, the President-elect's leadership and his energy during the campaign was impressive. But as the Chairman of the transition effort, I can assure the American people that his energy and his vision during the course of this transition has been even more inspiring.
To see the way he has brought together men and women of extraordinary capability at a historic pace in this cabinet -- nineteen of the twenty-one Cabinet officials have been announced. Nine committee hearings already scheduled, seven more soon to go on the books in the next several days. And it is a compilation of men and women with an unprecedented caliber of leadership and background to help this administration move our nation forward.
Perhaps that's why there has been such a concerted effort by some in the mainstream media to delegitimize this election and to demean our incoming administration. You know, I have long been a supporter of a free and independent press and I always will be.
But with freedom comes responsibility. And the irresponsible decision of a few news organizations to run with a false and unsubstantiated report when most news organizations resisted the temptation to propagate this fake news can only be attributed to media bias and attempt to demean the President-elect and our incoming administration and the American people are sick and tired of it.
But today, we’ll get back to real news. To real facts and the real progress our incoming President has already made in reviving the American economy and assembling a team that will Make America Great Again. And we’ll hear from the President-elect about issues that are of paramount importance to the American people today.
So it is my honor to introduce to all of you my friend and President-elect of the United States of America, Donald Trump.
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Thank you very much, this is very familiar territory — news conferences — because we used to give them on an almost daily basis. I think we probably maybe won the nomination because of news conferences. And it's good to be with you.
Trump has not given a formal press conference in 167 days, since late July, other than a few brief interactions with reporters. During the campaign, his press conferences were sporadic. Sometimes he would take questions on primary nights, but formal press conferences were only occasional.
We stopped giving them because we were getting quite a bit of inaccurate news. But I do have to say that -- and I must say that - I want to thank a lot of the news organizations here today because they looked at that nonsense that was released by maybe the intelligence agencies -- who knows but maybe the intelligence agencies, which would be at tremendous blot on their record if they in fact did that, a tremendous blot. Because a thing like that should have never been written -- it should never have been had, it should certainly have never been released. But I want to thank a lot of the news organizations for -- some of whom have not treated me very well over the years.
A couple in particular -- and they came out so strongly against that fake news and the fact that it was written about by primarily one group and one television station. So I just want to complement many of the people in the room, I have great respect for the news and great respect for freedom of the press and all of that.
But I will tell you, there were some news organizations with all that was just said that were so professional, so incredibly professional. That -- I've just gone up a notch as to what I think of you. OK? All right.
We've had some great news over the last couple of weeks. I've been quite active, I guess you could say, in an economic way for the country -- a lot of car companies are going to be moving in. We have other companies. Big news is going to be announced over the next couple of weeks about companies are going to be building in the Midwest. You saw yesterday Fiat Chrysler -- big, big factory going to built in this country as opposed to another country.
Ford just announced that they stopped plans for a billion-dollar plant in Mexico. And they’re going to moving into Michigan and expanding very substantially an existing plant. I appreciate that from Ford. I appreciate it very much from Fiat Chrysler. I hope that General Motors will be following. And I think they will be. I think a lot of people will be following.
Ford is investing in Michigan for small-car production because the company had decided to build a new pickup and SUV at one plant in Wayne and an electric car in Flat Rock. Fiat Chrysler’s investment is for its truck and SUV production. The car manufacturers have said they are seeking relief from tough fuel standards under a new administration.
The president-elect has criticized small-car production being moved to Mexico. The American car companies have profited in recent years because of trucks and SUVs. The U.S. market for small cars is cratering, while demand for small cars in Mexico remains strong. Mexico benefits from low wages, but labor makes up as little as 11 percent of the sticker price of the car. Mexico is also free of trade unions such as the UAW. And Mexico has more free trade agreements than the U.S. and most of the industrialized nations.
I think a lot of industries are going to be coming back. We have to get our drug industry coming back. Our drug industry has been disastrous. They’re leaving left and right. They supply our drugs, but they don't make them here. To a large extent. And the other thing we have to do is create new bidding procedures for the drug industry because they're getting away with murder.
Pharma, pharma has a lot of lobbies, a lot of lobbyists and a lot of power. And there's very little bidding on drugs. We’re the largest buyer of drugs in the world, and yet we don't bid properly. And were going to start bidding and were going to save billions of dollars over a period of time.
Spending on prescription drugs was about $325 billion in 2015, and Medicare accounts for about 29 percent of that, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation. It makes sense that allowing Medicare to negotiate lower prices could save billions, but that would depend on the final outcome of each negotiation. The Congressional Budget Office has said allowing Medicare to negotiate drug prices “would have a negligible effect on federal spending” because private companies already negotiate and Medicare benefits from those price deals.
And we’re going to do that with a lot of other industries. I'm very much involved with the generals and admirals on the airplane, the F-35 you’ve been reading about it. And it’s way, way behind schedule and many billions of dollars over budget. I don't like that.
And the admirals have been fantastic. The generals have been fantastic. I've really gotten to know them well. And we’re going to do some big things on the F-35 program and perhaps the F-18 program. And we’re going to get those costs way down, and we’re gonna get the plane to be even better and we’re going to have to some competition. And it’s going to be a beautiful thing.
Lockheed Martin’s nearly $1 trillion F-35 Lightning II fighter has become a favorite target for what Trump calls the opportunities to cut government spending. He has said he’s asked Lockheed’s archrival, Boeing, to price a “comparable” version of its older-model F/A-18 Super Hornet to try to get Lockheed to reduce the price per F-35, which in its latest orders cost nearly $160 million per copy. But the aircraft are very different — Lockheed won a competition against Boeing to design an all-new jet built from its wheels up with new sensors and electronics as well as features that enable it to evade enemy detection. The F/A-18 is the Navy's current workhorse but it does not have any of those capabilities. The Air Force insists it cannot take even new copies of the older Boeing design, and many foreign allies of the U.S., including the United Kingdom, Italy, Japan and Israel are buying F-35s to get advanced new capabilities and field a common aircraft with the United States. Lockheed has said it can reduce the cost per copy of the F-35 as order quantities increase in the future, but the jets have not deployed operationally as they are still being developed and tested at the same time they’re in production — originally an attempt by the Pentagon to save money.
Todd Harrison, a defense analyst with the Center for Strategic and International Studies, says the F-35 program is 50 percent over its original budget and many years behind schedule. The current cost of the program is about $379 billion, the largest-ever Pentagon weapons program.
So what are the “big things” Trump is talking about? Harrison says its seems that Trump the businessman is hinting that he could have the Navy buy more F-18 Super Hornet aircraft if the costs of the F-35C do not come down.
So we been very, very much involved -- and other things. We had Jack Ma, we had so many incredible people coming here -- they’re going to do tremendous things, tremendous things in this country. And they're very excited. And I will say if the election didn't turn out the way it turned out, they would not be here. They would not be in my office. They would not be in anybody else's office. They’d be building and doing things in other countries.
So there's a great spirit going on right now, a spirit that many people have told me they've never seen before -- ever. We’re going to create jobs. I said that I will be the greatest jobs producer that God ever created, and I mean that. I really -- I’m going to work very hard on that. We need to have certain amounts of other things, including a little bit of luck. But I think we’re going to do a real job. And I'm very proud of what we've done, and we haven't even gotten there yet.
Trump’s claim that he will be “the greatest jobs producer” ever will be extraordinarily difficult to achieve. First of all, economists of all persuasions agree that most jobs are created in the private sector, by private employers, not by presidents. Secondly, the unemployment rate stands at 4.7 percent, at or near a level economists consider full employment, meaning it can’t go lower without igniting inflation. The greater challenge for Trump will be enacting policies that support faster wage and productivity growth. For many workers in today’s economy, the problem isn’t that they can’t find jobs. It’s that their jobs don’t pay enough to support a middle-class lifestyle.
I look very much forward to the inauguration. It’s going to be a beautiful event. We have great talent, tremendous talent. And we have all of the bands -- or most of the bands from the different segments of the military. And I've heard some of these bands over the years -- they’re incredible. We’re going to have a very, very elegant day. The 20th is going to be something that will be very, very special, very beautiful. And I think we’re going to have massive crowds because we have a movement. It’s a movement like the world has never seen before. It’s a movement that a lot of people didn't expect. And even the polls, although some of them did get it right, but many of them didn't. And that was a beautiful scene on November 8th as those states started to pour in. And we focused very hard on those states, and they really reciprocated. And those states are going to have a lot of jobs, and they’re going to have a lot of security. They are going to have a lot of good news for their veterans. And by the way, speaking of veterans, I appointed today the head Secretary of the Veterans Administration, David Shulkin.
And we’ll do a news release in a little while, tell you about David -- he’s fantastic. He's fantastic. He will do a truly great job.
This press conference served as Trump’s announcement of David Shulkin as his nominee to head the Department of Veterans Affairs. Shulkin is currently undersecretary for health for the VA. He is an internist and also has served as head of several different medical organizations, according to his VA biography. See our charts tracking Trump’s Cabinet thus far right here.
One of the coming commitments I made is that we’re going to straighten out the whole situation for our veterans. Our veterans have been treated horribly. They’re waiting in line for 15, 16, 17 days. Cases where they go on in and they have a minor early-stage form of cancer and they can't see a doctor; by the time they get to the doctor, they’re terminal. It’s not going to happen, it’s not going to happen. So David is going to do a fantastic job. We’re going to be talking to a few people also to help David, and we have some of the great hospitals of the world going to align themselves with us on the Veterans Administration, like the Cleveland Clinic.
Embarrassments over long waits at VA clinics doomed President Obama’s first secretary of veterans affairs, Eric Shinseki, who resigned in 2014. His replacement, Robert McDonald, says he has focused heavily since then on getting vets into care sooner, plus Congress also authorized some veterans to seek care outside the system in a program that Trump says he supports or might expand as president. VA officials say they’ve cut their electronic “waitlist” by more than about 50 percent.
Veterans advocates praised Trump’s selection. “The VFW is proud to support the nomination of Dr. David Shulkin as the next Secretary of Veterans Affairs, and we are most appreciative of his willingness to continue serving veterans and making the VA better,” National Commander Brian Duffy said in a statement.
Like the Mayo Clinic, a few more that we have. And we’re going to set up a group. These are hospitals that have been the top of the line. The absolute top of the line. And they're going to get together with their great doctors -- Doctor Toby Cosgrove as you know from the Cleveland Clinic has been very involved. Ike Perlmutter has been very, very involved, one of the great men of business. And we’re going to straighten out the VA for our veterans. I’ve been promising that for a long time. And it’s something I feel very, very strongly. So you'll get the information on David. And I think you’ll be very impressed with the job he does. We looked long and hard -- we interviewed at least one hundred people, some good, some not so good. But we had a lot of talent. And we think this selection will be something that will, with time, with time, straighten it out and straighten it out for good. Because our veterans have been treated very unfairly.
OK. Questions. Yes? John.
First of all, did the heads of the intelligence agencies provide you with the two-page summary of these unsubstantiated allegations? And secondly to that, on the broader picture, do you accept their opinion that Vladimir Putin ordered the hack of the DNC and the attempted hack of the RNC?
And if you do, how will that color your attempts to build a relationship with a leader who has been accused of committing an act of espionage against the United States?
Sure.
Ok, first of all, these meetings, as you know, are confidential, classified. So I'm not allowed to talk about what went on in a meeting. But we had many witnesses in that meeting. Many of them with us. And I will say again, I think it's a disgrace that information would be let out. I saw the information. I read the information outside of that meeting. It’s all fake news. It’s phony stuff. It did not happen. And it was gotten by opponents of ours, as you know because you reported it and so did many of the other people. It was a group of opponents they got together -- sick people -- and they put that crap together.
So I will tell you that not within the meeting, but outside the meeting, somebody released it. It should never have been -- number one, should never have even entered paper. But it should never have been released. But I read what has been released, and I think it's a disgrace. I think it's an absolute disgrace.
As far as hacking, I think it was Russia. But I think we also get hacked by other countries and other people.
This is the first time we've heard President-elect Trump say that he thinks Russia was behind the hacking of the DNC emails. That was the finding of the U.S. intelligence community, which briefed Trump and President Obama on the subject last week. But up until then, Trump had suggested on Twitter, in interviews and in debates that others like China or even a 400-pound hacker could have been responsible.
In a statement released immediately after his intelligence briefing, Trump said, “While Russia, China, other countries, outside groups and people are consistently trying to break through the cyber infrastructure of our governmental institutions, businesses and organizations including the Democrat National Committee, there was absolutely no effect on the outcome of the election including the fact that there was no tampering whatsoever with voting machines.”
And I can say that, you know, when we lost 22 million names and everything else that was hacked recently, they didn’t make a big deal out of that. That was something that was extraordinary — that was probably China. We had much hacking going on. One of the things we’re going to do —we have some of the greatest computer minds anywhere in the world that we've assembled. You saw just a sample of it two weeks ago up here we had the six top people in the world. They were never the same room together as a group.
Trump is referring to the hacking of millions of personnel files held by the Office of Personnel Management. Current and former government employees, family members, contractors and others who’d undergone background checks were affected, and things like Social Security numbers and even fingerprints were stolen. The Obama administration never formally named China publicly as the culprit or said what — if anything — they did to retaliate. Lawmakers and experts, however, did put the blame on China, and there was ample media coverage of the OPM hacks, like this story from NPR’s Brian Naylor in 2015 and this one a year later.
And we’re going to put those minds together, and we're going to form a defense. And I have to say this also -- the Democratic National Committee was totally open to be hacked. They did a very poor job. They could have had hacking defense, which we had. And I will give Reince Priebus credit because when Reince saw what was happening in the world and with this country, he went out and went to various firms and ordered a very, very strong hacking defense. And they tried to hack the Republican National Committee, and they were unable to break through. We have to do that for our country. It’s very important.
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Just to the last part of that question, how could all of this potentially color your attempts to build a better relationship with President Putin?
Well, you know, President Putin and Russia put out a statement today that this fake news was indeed fake news. They said it totally never happened. Now somebody would say, “oh, of course he’s going to say that” -- I respected the fact that he said that. And I will be honest, I think if he did have something, they would have released it. They would've been glad to release it. I think frankly, had they broken into the Republican National Committee, I think they would have released it — just like they did about Hillary — and all of the horrible things that her people, like Mr. Podesta said about her. I mean what he said about her was horrible. If somebody said about me what Podesta said about Hillary, I was the boss, I would have fired him immediately. Or that person. Because what he said about her was horrible.
It’s not clear what Trump is talking about here. Clinton campaign Chairman John Podesta’s personal Gmail account was hacked and emails were slowly released by WikiLeaks in the closing weeks of the campaign. However, we’ve been unable to find instances of Podesta saying “horrible things” about Clinton. In one email, he asks her campaign manager if he knew the extent of the email issue in advance (he didn’t), and in another Podesta writes that those in Clinton’s inner circle "sure weren't forthcoming on the facts here." In the hacked emails, Clinton ally Neera Tanden uses more colorful and critical language.
But remember this. We talk about the hacking. And hacking’s bad. And it shouldn’t be done. But look at the things that were hacked. Look at what was learned from that hacking. That Hillary Clinton got the questions to the debate and didn’t report it? That’s a horrible thing. That’s a horrible thing. Can you imagine that if Donald Trump got the questions to the debate? It would have been the biggest story in the history of stories. And they would have said, “immediately you have to get out of the race.” No one even talked about it. It’s a very terrible thing.
Trump is referring to revelations from the hacked emails of Podesta that were released by WikiLeaks. One showed that current interim DNC Chair Donna Brazile, in her former role as a CNN commentator, passed along a question from a town hall produced by that network and TV One. Brazile also tipped off the Clinton campaign that a question in a primary debate would come from a woman dealing with the aftermath of lead poisoning in Flint, Mich. After the revelations, Brazile resigned her role with CNN.
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On that intelligence report, the second part of their conclusion was that Vladimir Putin ordered it because he aspired to help you in the election.
Do you accept that part of the finding? And will you undo what President Obama did to punish the Russians for this or will you keep it in place?
Well, if Putin likes Donald Trump, I consider that an asset, not a liability. Because we have a horrible relationship with Russia. Russia can help us fight ISIS, which by the way, is number one tricky. I mean, if you look, this administration created ISIS by leaving at the wrong time. The void was created, ISIS was formed. If Putin likes Donald Trump, guess what folks? That’s called an asset not a liability. Now I don't know that I am going to get along with Vladimir Putin. I hope I do, but there is a good chance I won’t. And if I don’t, do you honestly believe that Hillary would be tougher on Putin than me? Does anybody in this room really believe that? Give me a break. Ok.
President Obama...
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...make clear whether during your visits to either Moscow or St. Petersburg, you engaged in conduct that you now regret and that a reasonable...
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Would a reasonable observer say that you are potentially vulnerable to blackmail by Russia or by its intelligence agencies?
No, I didn’t. Well, let me tell you. Yeah. Let me just tell you what I do. When I leave our country, I’m a very high profile person, would you say? I am extremely careful. I’m surrounded by bodyguards. I’m surrounded by people. And I always tell them, anywhere, but I always tell them, if I’m leaving this country, “Be very careful. Because in your hotel rooms -- and no matter where you go, you’re gonna probably have cameras. I’m not referring just to Russia, but I would certainly put them in that category -- and number one I hope you’re going to be good anyway. But in those rooms you have cameras in the strangest places. Cameras that are so small with modern technology, you can’t see them and you won’t know. You better be careful or you’ll be watching yourself on nightly television.” I tell this to people all the time. I was in Russia, years ago, with the Miss Universe contest, which did very well. Moscow, the Moscow area. Did very, very well. And I told many people, “Be careful. Because you don’t wanna see yourself on television.” Cameras all over the place. And again, not just Russia. All over. Does anyone really believe that story? I’m also very much of a germaphobe, by the way. Believe me.
Trump is referring to reports that Russian intelligence has evidence, including video, of alleged salacious behavior on his part during a 2013 visit to Moscow. NPR and other news organizations have declined to publish the details of that report because they have not been verified. Trump and his team have condemned BuzzFeed, which published the full report on Tuesday.
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How you plan to disentangle yourself from your business. But first, I have to follow-up on some of these Russian remarks.
Based on your comments here today, do you believe the hacking was justified? Does Russia have any leverage over you, financial or otherwise? And if not, will you release your tax returns to prove it?
So I tweeted out, that I have no dealings with Russia, I have no deals in Russia, I have no deals that could happen in Russia because we have stayed away, and I have no loans with Russia. As a real estate developer I have very very little debt, I have assets that are - and now people have found out how big the company is. I have very little debt, I have very low debt. But I have no loans with Russia at all and I thought that was important to point out. I certify that. I have no deals. I have no loans. I have no dealings. We could make deals in Russia very easily, if we wanted to, I just don’t want to because I think that would be a conflict. So I have no loans, no dealings, and no current pending deals.
First, the details of Trump’s financial ties would be clarified if he released his tax returns. There is evidence that the Trump Organization has attempted business deals in Russia. In 2008, his son Donald Jr. talked of traveling to the country frequently and told a real estate conference, “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross section of a lot of our assets.” There are suspicions that Trump is indebted to Russian banks, which is what he seemed to be responding to here. He held the 2013 Miss Universe pageant in Moscow, which the Washington Post reports made Trump millions and was financed in part by a Putin ally.
Trump’s nominee for secretary of state, Rex Tillerson, was facing questions from senators in his confirmation hearing about his own ties to Russia at the same time as Trump’s press conference. As CEO of Exxon Mobil, he did major business deals in Russia and managed the company’s dealings there at times before being elevated to the top of the company. Tillerson received the Order of Friendship from President Vladimir Putin in 2013.
Now I have to say one other thing. Over the weekend, I was offered two billion dollars to do a deal in Dubai with a very, very very amazing man, a great, great developer from the Middle East.
Hussain Damac; a friend of mine, great guy.
Trump here appears to be referring to Hussain Sajwani, whom Trump also referred to in a New Year’s Eve speech, CNN reported. Sajwani is the founder of the DAMAC Group, a Dubai-based developer. One political law attorney told CNN that this might mean Trump is not sufficiently cutting off his “existing business relationships.” However, Kellyanne Conway told CNN that Trump was “allowed to have a New Year’s Eve celebration with his friends, or his business partners, or his acquaintances.”
And was offered two billion dollars to do a deal in Dubai -- a number of deals. And I turned it down. I didn't have to turn it down. Because as you know, I have have a no conflict situation because I'm president, which is -- I didn't know about that until about three months ago. But it's a nice thing to have.
But I don't want to take advantage of something. I have something that others don't have. Vice President Pence also has it. I don't think he’ll need it. I have a feeling he’s not going to need it. But I have a no conflict of interest provision as president. It was many, many years old. This is for presidents because they don’t want presidents --
Donald Trump’s attorney, Sheri Dillon, elaborated on this later in the press conference, but, yes, it is true that the law does not apply to the president when it comes to conflicts of interest. NPR’s Peter Overby explained here: “To be clear, some ethics laws do apply to the incoming president,” like bribery laws and insider trading. But not conflict-of-interest laws. Of course there is also the “Emoluments Clause,” which deals with foreign gifts. NPR’s Ailsa Chang wrapped it here.
The conflict-of-interest law, however, does apply to his Cabinet nominees, which is something that could become thorny — in particular given their wealth. The Office of Government Ethics has been very aggressive in pointing that out, and some hearings have already been delayed, in part, because of incomplete filings.
I understand. They don't want presidents getting tangled up in minutia. They want a president to run the country. So I could actually run my business. I could actually run my business and run government at the same time. I don't like the way that looks, but I would be able to do that if I wanted to.
I would be the only one who will be able to do that. You can’t do that in any other capacity. But as a president, I could run the Trump Organization -- great, great company -- and I could run the country. I’d do a very good job. But I don't want to do that.
Now, all of these papers that you see here -- yes, go ahead. Sure.
...Do you believe the hacking was justified? And will you release your tax returns to prove what you're saying about no deals in Russia?
Well, I'm not releasing the tax returns because, as you know, they're under audit.
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... since the '70's has had a required audit from the IRS, the last place to release them, but as president --
Oh, gee, I've never heard that. I’ve never heard that before. The only one that cares about my tax returns are the reporters. They’re the only ones.
It doesn’t come through in the transcript, but Trump is being sarcastic here, as his tax returns were a frequent topic in the campaign. Trump broke with a long tradition of presidential candidates releasing their tax returns and was regularly criticized for that by his opponents, who asked what he was hiding. To that point, a new poll from the Pew Research Center finds “a wide majority” believe Trump has a responsibility to release his tax returns: “60% say this, compared with 33% who say he does not have a responsibility to release his tax returns.”
You don't think the American public is concerned about it?
But no, I don't think so. I won -- I mean, I became president -- no, I don’t think they care at all. I don't think they care at all. I think you care. I think you care.
First of all, you learn very little from a tax return. What you should do is go to federal elections and take a look at the numbers. And actually, people have learned a lot about my company. And now they realize my company is much bigger, much more powerful than they ever thought. We’re in many, many countries and I'm very proud of it. And what I'm going to be doing is my two sons, who are right here, Don and Eric, are going to be running the company. They are going to be running it in a very professional manner.
The federal election disclosure forms do tell you something about the value of assets that Trump owns, but tax returns give you other very important information. First of all, they would tell you whether Trump paid taxes, and if he did, how much he paid and what his effective tax rate was. Tax returns would also show whether Trump’s claims about his charitable giving are true. Federal election financial disclosure forms don’t tell us that. Also, while financial disclosures tell you the value of assets, tax returns can tell you how much money Trump is making and how it’s being made.
Trump’s FEC disclosure form is indeed extensive at 104 pages, but it is a ballpark estimate of his financial situation, listing a range of values for assets and liabilities rather than precise numbers. Trump is the first major party presidential candidate in 40 years who did not make any of his tax returns public. (Gerald Ford released a partial summary of his taxes in 1976.)
They are not going to discuss it with me. Again, I don't have to do this. They're not going to discuss it with me. And with that, I'm going to bring up Sherri Dillon. And she is going to go -- these papers are just some of the many documents that I have signed turning over complete and total control to my sons.
Good morning. It's my honor and privilege to be here today as President-elect Trump’s request. He has asked me, as you just heard, to speak about the conflicts of interest and the steps he’s taking -- as you know, the business empire built by President-elect Trump over the years is massive. Not dissimilar to this fortune of Nelson Rockefeller when he became vice president. But at that time, no one was so concerned. President-elect Trump wants the American public to rest assured that all of his efforts are directed to pursuing the people's business and not his own.
To that end, as he explained a few moments ago, he directed me and my colleagues at the law firm Morgan Lewis & Bockius to design a structure for his business empire that would completely isolate him from the management of the company. He further instructed that we build in protections that will assure the American people the decisions he makes and the actions he takes as president are for their benefit and not to support his financial interests.
As he said, he’s voluntarily taking this on. The conflicts of interest laws simply do not apply to the president or the vice president. And they are not required to separate themselves from their financial assets. The primary conflicts of interest statute, since some have questioned this, is section 18, USC 208. It is simply inapplicable by its terms. This is not just our interpretation. It’s the congress itself, who made this clear in 1989 when it amended section 18 USC 202 to state that “Except as otherwise provided, the terms ‘office’ and ‘employee’ in section 208 shall not include the president.”
Even so, President-elect Trump wants there to be no doubt in the minds of the American public that he is completely isolating himself from his business interests. He instructed us to take all steps realistically possible to make it clear that he is not exploiting the office of the presidency for his personal benefit. He also sought the guidance of individuals who are familiar with and have worked extensively in the fields of government ethics and constitutional law. Critical to the Morgan Lewis team is Fred Fielding, standing here to our side and with us today, and many of you have known him. He has served several presidents over the years. Including serving as counsel to Presidents Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush. As well as serving on President George H. W. Bush’s Commission on Federal Ethics Law Reform. And he also held the position of vice chair of the Ethics Resource Center. Mr. Fielding has been extensively involved with and approved this plan. He’s here today to support the plan and will continue to provide guidance as the plan is implemented and as Eric, Don, along with others take over management of the Trump Organization. I’m going to detail some of the extraordinary steps now that the President-elect is taking.
First, President-elect Trump’s investments and business assets, commonly known as the Trump Organization, comprising hundreds of entities, which again, if you all go and take a look at his financial disclosure statement, the pages and pages and pages of entities have all been or will be conveyed to a trust prior to January 20th.
Second, through the trust agreement, he has relinquished leadership and management of the Trump Organization to his sons Don and Eric and longtime Trump executive, Alan Weisselberg. Together Don, Eric and Alan will have the authority to manage the Trump Organization and will make decisions for the duration of the Presidency without any involvement whatsoever by President-elect Trump. Further, at the President-elect's direction, the trust agreement provides that to ensure the Trump Organization continues to operate in accordance with the highest and legal and ethics standards, an ethics advisor will be pointed to the management team.
The written approval of the ethics advisor will be required for new deals, actions, and transactions that could potentially raise ethics or conflicts of interest concerns. President-elect Trump as well as Don, Eric and Alan are committed to ensuring that the activities of the Trump Organization are beyond reproach and cannot be perceived to be exploitive of the office of the presidency. President-elect Trump will resign from all officer and other positions he holds with the Trump Organization entities.
Further, in addition his daughter Ivanka will have no further involvement with or management authority whatsoever with the Trump Organization. As she and Jared move their family to D.C., Ivanka will be focused on settling her children into their new homes and their new schools.
The President-elect has also already disposed of all of his investments in publicly traded or easily liquidated investments. As a result, the trust will have two types of assets. First, it will hold liquid assets: cash, cash equivalents, and treasuries and perhaps some positions in a government approved diversified portfolio, one that is consistent with the regulations from the Office of Government Ethics. Second, the trust is going to hold his preexisting, illiquid but very valuable business assets, the ones that everyone here is familiar with; Trump owned, operated and branded golf clubs, commercial rental property, resorts, hotels, rights to royalties from pre-existing licenses of Trump marks, productions, and goods. Things like Trump Tower, Mar-A-Lago, all of his other business assets, 40 Wall Street, will all be in the trust. Through instructions in the trust agreement, President-elect Trump first ordered that all pending deals be terminated. This impacted more than thirty deals, many of which were set to close by the end of 2016. As you can well imagine, that caused an immediate financial loss of millions of dollars, not just for President-elect Trump but also for Don, Ivanka and Eric.
The trust agreement, as directed by President Trump, imposes severe restrictions on new deals.
No new foreign deals will be made whatsoever during the duration of President Trump’s presidency.
New domestic deals will be allowed, that they will go through a vigorous vetting process. The President-elect will have no role in deciding whether the Trump Organization engages in any new deal. And he will only know of a deal if he reads it in the paper or sees it on TV.
Because any new deal could -- and I emphasize could -- be perceived as causing a conflict or as exploiting the office of the presidency. New deals must be vetted with the ethics advisor whose role will be to analyze any potential transactions for conflicts and ethics issues.
The ethics advisor will be a recognized expert in the field of government experts. Again, his role will be to scrutinize the new deals and the actions and any new deal must receive written approval.
To further reinforce the wall that we're building between President-elect Trump and the Trump Organization, President-elect Trump has ordered, this trust agreement, to sharply limit his information rights. Reports will only be available and reflect profit and loss on the company as a whole. There will be no separate business by business accounting.
Another step the President-elect Trump has taken it to create a new position at the Trump Organization. The position of Chief Compliance Counsel, whose responsibility will be to ensure that the Trump businesses again are operating at the highest levels of integrity and not taking any actions that could be perceived as exploiting the office of the presidency.
He has also directed that no communications of the Trump Organization, including social media accounts, will reference or be tied to President-elect Trump's role as president of the United States or the office of the presidency.
In sum, all of these actions, complete relinquishment of management, no foreign deals, ethics advisor approval of deals, sharply limited information rights, will sever President-elect Trump's presidency from the Trump Organization.
Some have asked questions. Why not divest? Why not just sell everything? Form a blind trust — and I’d like to turn to addressing some of those questions now.
Many ethics watchdogs have said the only way for Trump to avoid conflicts of interest is to liquidate his assets and put the proceeds in a blind trust, as previous presidents have done. But Dillon makes a strong argument for why that’s problematic in the case of the president-elect. Much of the value of the Trump Organization is not in buildings or land but in the Trump “brand.” If Trump’s name stays on the building or the golf course after a sale in exchange for royalty payments, then the conflict persists. If you take the name away to avoid that conflict, you’d have to sell the asset at a “fire sale” price.
Selling, first and foremost, would not eliminate possibilities of conflicts of interest. In fact, it would exacerbate them. The Trump brand is key to the value of the Trump Organization's assets. If President-elect Trump sold his brand, he will be entitled to royalties for the use of it. And this would result in the trust retaining an interest in the brand without the ability to assure that it does not exploit the office of the presidency.
Further, whatever price was paid would be subject to criticism and scrutiny. Was it too high? Is there pay for play? Was too much paid to curry favor with the President-elect? And selling his assets without the right to the brand would greatly diminish the value of the assets and create a fire sale. President-elect Trump should not be expected to destroy the company he built.
This plan offers a suitable alternative to address the concerns of the American people. And selling the entire Trump Organization isn't even feasible. Some people have suggested that the President-elect sell the business to his adult children. This would require massive third-party debt sourced with multiple lenders whose motives and willingness to participate would be questioned and undoubtedly investigated.
And if the President-elect were to finance the sale himself, he would retain the financial interest and the assets that he owns now. Some people have suggested that President-elect Trump could bundle the assets and turn the Trump Organization into a public company. Anyone who's ever gone through this extraordinarily cumbersome and complicated process knows that it is a nonstarter. It is not realistic, and it would be inappropriate for the Trump Organization.
Some people have suggested a blind trust. But you cannot have a totally blind trust with operating businesses. President Trump can't unknow he owns Trump Tower. And the press will make sure that any new developments at the Trump Organization are well publicized.
Dillon essentially concedes here that even after he separates himself from daily management of the Trump Organization, Trump will know what the company’s assets are and questions will linger about the motivation of any government action that affects those assets.
Further, it would be impossible to find an institutional trustee that would be competent to run the Trump Organization.
The approach he is taking allows Don and Eric to preserve this great company and its iconic assets. And this approach is best from a conflicts and ethics perspective. It creates a complete separation from President-elect Trump and separates him and prevents him from participating in the business, imposes strict limits on what the trustees can do and requires the assent of any ethics advisor to a new deal. I’m going to turn to one last topic today that has been of interest lately called emolument -- that’s a word I think we all have become familiar with and perhaps had not heard before.
And we’re going to describe other actions that President-elect Trump is taking to avoid even the appearance of a conflict.
Emolument comes from the Constitution. The Constitution says officials may not accept gifts, titles of nobility or emoluments from foreign governments with respect to their office. And that no benefit should be derived by holding an office. The so-called emoluments clause has never been interpreted, however, to apply to fair value exchanges that have absolutely nothing to do with an office holder. No one would have thought, when the Constitution was written, that paying your hotel bill was an emolument. Instead, it would have been thought of as a value for value exchange, not a gift, not a title and not an emolument.
But since President-elect Trump has been elected, some people want to define emoluments to cover routine business transactions, like paying for hotel rooms. They suggest that the Constitution prohibits the businesses from even arm's-length transactions that the President-elect has absolutely nothing to do with and isn't even aware of.
These people are wrong. This is not with the Constitution says. Paying for a hotel room is not a gift or a present, and has nothing to do with an office. It’s not an emolument. The Constitution does not require President-elect Trump to do anything here. But, just like with conflicts of interest, he wants to do more than what the Constitution requires.
This claim is not clear. This may be Dillon’s take, but the law on this is vague and the Constitution does not spell out what constitutes an “emolument.” Merriam-Webster defines it as “the returns arising from office or employment usually in the form of compensation or perquisites,” but dictionary.com’s definition is “profit, salary, or fees from office or employment; compensation for services.” That part about “services” is what has legal experts questioning whether a foreign dignitary staying at a Trump hotel would constitute a potential violation of the Emoluments Clause. As Richard Painter, a former ethics lawyer to President George W. Bush, told NPR’s Chang: "The services theory would be along the lines of, 'Well, if Donald Trump himself as president could not perform services for the foreign government, he can't have his hired help — people who work for him in that hotel — provide those services, and then he receives the payment.' That would be an end-run around the prohibition on any type of emolument."
The law on this is unclear. There is almost no precedent on it. Regardless, it appears Trump’s team thought it was squishy enough that they wanted to take steps — that some will see as not enough — to clear up any potential problems that could arise from foreign dignitaries staying in his hotel.
So President-elect Trump has decided -- and we are announcing today -- that he is going to voluntarily donate all profits from foreign government payments made to his hotels to the United States Treasury.
This is a big claim, and the details of if and how this could work will be important. To be clear, it is possible to donate money to the U.S. Treasury, and this page details the hundreds of millions, and even billions, that are donated each year. One big question raised was whether this could be a way for foreigners to “curry favor with the Trump administration,” as NBC’s Mark Murray wondered. In addition, there’s the question of transparency under such a system. “Public needs full disclosure for accountability + trust,” the New York Times’ Andrew Ross Sorkin tweeted.
This way, it is the American people who will profit. In some, I and President-elect’s other advisors at Morgan Lewis have determined the approach we’ve outlined today will avoid potential conflicts of interest or concerns regarding exploitation of the office of the presidency without imposing unnecessary and unreasonable losses on the President-elect and his family.
We believe this structure and these steps will serve to accomplish the President-elect’s desire to be isolated from his business interests and give the American people confidence that his sole business and interest is in making America great again. Bringing back jobs to this country, securing our borders and rebuilding our infrastructure. The American people were well aware of President-elect Trump’s business empire and financial interests when they voted. Many people voted for him precisely because of his business success. President-elect Trump wants to bring this success to all Americans. Thank you.
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What is your response to your critics that say not only you, but also your Cabinet is filled with conflicts of interest and do you plan to set an example in the future to make sure your Cabinet and everyone throughout your administration is --
I really think that when you watch was going on with -- what's happening -- I was is watching, as an example, Rex Tillerson. I think it's brilliant what he's doing and what he’s saying. I watched yesterday, as you know, our great senator who is going to be a great Attorney General.
And he was brilliant. And what people don't know is that he was a great prosecutor and Attorney General in Alabama. And he was brilliant yesterday. So I really think that they are -- I think we have one of the great cabinets ever put together. And we’ve been hearing that from so many people -- people are so happy. You know, in the case of Rex, he ran incredibly Exxonmobil.
When there was a find, he would get it. When they needed something, he would be there. A friend of mine is very, very substantial in the oil business - Harold Hamm -- big supporter -- he said there's no one in the business like Rex Tillerson.
And that's what we want. That's what I want to bring to government. I want to bring the greatest people into government because we're way behind. We don't make good deals anymore. I say it all the time at speeches. We don't make the deals anymore. We make bad deals.
Our trade deals are a disaster. We have hundreds of billions of dollars of losses on a yearly basis — hundreds of billions with China on trade and trade imbalance, with Japan, with Mexico, with just about everybody.
Trump seems to once again be criticizing the U.S. running a trade deficit, particularly with China. Trade deficits are not necessarily bad. In fact, it’s possible that some form of a trade deficit is necessary for the U.S., because many international deals are made in dollars, even when the U.S. isn’t involved, as the New York Times’ Neil Irwin explained last year. That boosts the dollar, which sounds like a good thing, except that makes U.S. exports more expensive for foreigners. Marketplace’s Sabri Ben-Achour also recently pointed out that often, the trade deficit is wide during good economic times and narrow during slower economies. He also noted that a higher trade deficit signals higher investment in the U.S.
We don't make good deals anymore. So we need people that are smart. We need people that are successful. And they got successful because, generally speaking, they’re smart. And that’s what I put. I'm very proud of the cabinet. I think they’re doing very well. It's very interesting how it's going, but I think they're doing very, very well.
I want to ask a few questions on Obamacare.
Yeah.
Can you be specific on what guidance you’re giving congressional Republicans on the timeline for repeal and replace? Whether it needs to be simultaneous or --
Sure. Finally Obamacare. I thought it was never going to be asked.
Also ask you if you have outlined a plan for what you want to replace package look like. Would it guarantee coverage for those who have gotten health insurance through the current Obamacare law?
You’re going to be very, very proud, as not only the media and reporters -- can be very proud of what we put forth having to do with healthcare. Obamacare is a complete and total disaster.
The Affordable Care Act is responsible for extending health insurance coverage to about 20 million people who did not have it before. About half of those people get their coverage through the expansion of Medicaid, the federal health program for the poor and for people with disabilities. The other half buy through exchanges. In many states, insurers have raised their premiums by double digits, or have pulled out of the market, leading to concerns that the market is unstable.
They can say what they want. They can guide you anyway they want to guide you. In some cases, they guide you incorrectly. In most cases, you realize what’s happened. It’s imploding as we said. Some states have over 100 percent increase.
And ‘17 and I said this two years ago — ‘17 is going to be the bad year. It’s going to be catastrophic. Frankly, we could sit back — and it was a thought from a political standpoint, but it wouldn’t be fair to the people — we could sit back and wait and watch and criticize.
And we could be a Chuck Schumer and sit back and criticize it and people would come -- they would come begging to us -- please, we have to do something about Obamacare. We don't want to own it. We don't want to own it politically.
They own it right now. So the easiest thing would be to let it implode in ‘17 and believe me, we'd get pretty much whatever we wanted. But it would take a long time. We're going to be submitting, as soon as our secretary is approved, almost simultaneously -- shortly thereafter -- a plan. It will be repeal and replace. It will be, essentially simultaneously.
It will be various segments, you understand but will most likely be on the same day or the same week -- but probably the same day -- could be a same hour. So we're going to do repeal and replace -- very complicated stuff. And we’re going to get a health bill passed -- we’re going to get healthcare taken care of for this country. You have deductibles that are so high that after people go broke paying their premiums, which are going through the roof, the health care can't even be used by them because the deductibles are so high.
Deductibles, the amount consumers have to spend before their insurance kicks in, have been rising dramatically in recent years. According to the Kaiser Family Foundation, the average deductible for people who get insurance through their employers rose from $584 in 2006 to $1,478 last year. Most plans sold through the Obamacare marketplaces carried deductibles of more than $3,000 last year.
Obamacare is the Democrats’ problem. We are going to take the problem off the shelves for them.
We’re doing them a tremendous service by doing it. We could sit back and let them hang with it.
We are doing the Democrats a great service. So as soon as our secretary is approved, and gets into the office, we will be filing a plan and it was actually -- pretty accurately reported today -- The New York Times -- and the plan will be repeal and replace Obamacare.
We’re going to have a health care that is far less expensive and far better. OK.
It is worth noting here that as Trump lays out his goals for an Obamacare replacement, he doesn’t mention the number of people who will be covered. Trump adviser Conway commented in a recent interview, “We don't want anyone who currently has insurance to not have insurance.” But in the press conference, Trump didn’t respond to the part of the reporter’s question where she asked, “Would it guarantee coverage for those who have gotten health insurance through the current Obama care law?”
When you would all the meetings that you had with these people, even FEMA begins the program, visiting is that e-commerce? In my follow-up question that is how soon will we see the program on capital appreciation and corporate taxes?
Well, if I can save jobs -- for instance, I was doing individual companies. And people were saying well, that’s only one company. Like, we did a good job with Carrier. And I want to thank United Technologies, which owns Carrier. But we saved close to one thousand jobs.
And they were gone. And Mike Pence and his staff really helped with a lot. But those were jobs -- that was a tough one because they announced a year and a half before that they were leaving. So it's always tough when they are building a plant -- is a little tougher than before they start or before they make an announcement. So I want to thank United Technologies.
But we've been meeting with a lot of companies. But what really is happening is the word is now out that when you want to move your plant to Mexico or some other place and you want to fire all of your workers from Michigan and Ohio and all these places that I won, for good reason, not going to happen that way anymore. You want to move your plant, and you think, as an example, you’re going to to build that plant in Mexico.
And you’re going to make your air conditioners or your cars or whatever you're making, and you're going to sell them through a -- what will be a very, very strong border -- not a weak border like it is now. We don’t even have a border. It’s an open sieve. But you're going to sell through a very strong border -- not going to happen.
You're going to pay a very large border tax. So if you want to move to another country and if you want to fire all of our great American workers that got you there in the first place, you can move from Michigan to Tennessee and to North Carolina and South Carolina -- you can move from South Carolina back to Michigan. You can do anyway. You have a lot of states at play. A lot of competition. So it’s not like oh, gee, I’m taking the competition away. You got a lot of places you can move. And I don't care. As long as it's within the United States, the borders of the United States. There will be a major border tax on these companies that are leaving and getting away with murder.
In tweets directed at specific companies, including GM, Trump has threatened to raise tariffs on goods made by American companies overseas and reimported back into the U.S. for sale. If Trump makes good on his promise to do so, or if he scraps the North American Free Trade Agreement, that could certainly affect the flow of goods, especially in the automotive and electronic industries, where parts and products are frequently transported across the U.S.-Mexico border. That would very likely prompt companies to have to rethink the cost of manufacturing goods overseas. However, most economists believe that raising tariffs would lead to retaliatory trade actions by Mexico and other countries, and that the resulting decline in free trade would be a net negative for the U.S. economy.
And if our politicians had what it takes, they would have done this years ago. And you would have millions more workers right now in the United States that are 96 million really wanting a job and they can’t get. You know that story — the real number. That's the real number. So that's the way it is. OK. Go ahead.
There are not 96 million Americans who want a job and can’t get one. Not even close. According to the latest jobs report, there were around 7.5 million unemployed Americans — that is, people who are out of work and looking for a job. Of course, there are discouraged workers and other “marginally attached workers,” all of whom want to work but are not searching. Those people total nearly 1.7 million. Add that to the number of unemployed, and you get around 9.2 million. Trump’s 96 million figure may refer to the 95.1 million Americans not in the labor force — that is, people who are not looking for work. But that figure includes the many, many Americans who do not want to work. That can include college students, stay-at-home parents, and retirees.
With the president let, out a question about the frequent border security. But also without you about the reason for the four. Are we living in Nazi Germany? Were you driving at their? Do you have a problem with the intelligence community? And on the sprinkler, was a timeline? You set a while ago you are down to four. Have you conducted those interviews yet? What the timeline for nominated? And on the border fence, it now appears clear US taxpayers will have to pay for it upfront. What is your plan to get Mexico to pay for it?
On the fence, it’s not a fence it’s the wall. You just misreported it. We’re going to build a wall. I could wait about a year and a half until we finish our negotiations with Mexico, which will start immediately after we get to office. But I don't want to wait. Mike Pence is leading an effort to get final approvals through various agencies and through Congress for the wall to begin. I don’t feel like waiting a year or year and a half. We’re going to start building.
Mexico, in some form, and there many different forms, will reimburse us and they will reimburse us for the cost of the wall.
That will happen. Whether it's a tax or whether it's a payment -- probably less likely that it’s a payment -- but it will happen. So remember this, OK? I would say we are going to build a wall, and people would go crazy.
I would then say -- who's going to pay for the wall? And people would all scream out -- twenty five, thirty thousand people, because no one’s ever had crowds like Trump has had. You know that. You don’t like to report that, but that's OK. OK, now he agrees. Finally, he agrees. But, I say, who's going to pay for the wall? And they will scream out -- Mexico. Now, reports went out last week -- oh, Mexico’s not going to pay for the wall because of a reimbursement.
What’s the difference? I want to get the wall started. I don't want to wait a year and a half until I make my deal with Mexico. And we probably will have a deal sooner than that. And by the way, Mexico has been so nice. So nice.
I respect the government of Mexico. I respect the people of Mexico. I love the people of Mexico. I have many people from Mexico working for me. They are phenomenal people. The government of Mexico is terrific. I don't blame them for what’s happened. I don't blame them for taking advantage of the United States. I wish our politicians were so smart. Mexico has taken advantage of the United States. I don't blame the representatives and various presidents, etc. of Mexico. What I say is we shouldn't have allowed that to happen.
When Trump announced his candidacy for president in June of 2015 he said, “When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”
It’s not going to happen anymore. So in order to get the wall started, Mexico will pay for the wall. But it will be reimbursed. OK?
Supreme Court judge. So, you know, I have a list of twenty. I've gone through them. We met with numerous candidates. They’re outstanding in every case. They were largely recommended and highly recommended by Federalist Society. And Jim DeMint was also very much involved in this group, which is fantastic. And he’s a fantastic guy.
So between Leo and Jim DeMint and some senators and some congress people, we have a great group of people. I'll be making the decision on who we will put up for Justice of the United States Supreme Court - a replacement for the great, great Justice Scalia. That will be probably within two weeks of the 20th. So within about two weeks, probably the second week, I consider the first day because we'll all still be doing some pretty good signings.
And I think what we'll do is we'll wait til Monday. That will be a really first business day as opposed to doing it on Friday because on Friday, people are going to have a very good time at the inauguration. And then Saturday, as you know, we’re having a big church service and lots of good things are happening. So our first day -- and you all be invited to the signings -- but we’ll be doing some pretty good signings on Monday and Tuesday and Wednesday and Thursday and Friday. And then also the next week.
And you're all invited. But on the Supreme Court, I’ll be making that decision and it will be a decision which I very strongly believe in. I think is one of the reasons I got elected. I think the people of this country did not want to see what was happening with the Supreme Court.
So I think it was a very, very big decision as to why I was elected.
The tweet that you had this morning about are we living in Nazi Germany, what were you driving at there? What are you trying to tell the American public?
I think it was disgraceful -- disgraceful that the intelligence agencies allowed any information that turned out to be so false and fake out. I think it's a disgrace, and I say that -- and I say that, and that's something that Nazi Germany would have done and did do. I think it's a disgrace that information that was false and fake and never happened got released to the public.
As far as BuzzFeed, which is a failing pile of garbage, writing it, I think they're going to suffer the consequences. They already are. And as far as CNN going out of their way to build it up -- and by the way, we just found out I was coming down. Michael Cohen -- I was being -- Michael Cohen is a very talented lawyer. He's a good lawyer in my firm. It was just reported that it wasn't this Michael Cohen they we're talking about. So all night long it's Michael Cohen.
I said, "I want to see your passport." He brings his passport to my office. I say, “Hey, wait a minute. He didn't leave the country. He wasn't out of the country.” They had Michael Cohen of the Trump Organization was in Prague. It turned out to be a different Michael Cohen. It's a disgrace what took place. It's a disgrace and I think they ought to apologize to start with Michael Cohen.
Since you're attacking us, can you give us a question? Mr. President-elect --
Go ahead.
Mr. President-elect, since you are attacking our news organization...
Not you.
Can you give us a chance?
Your organization is terrible.
You are attacking our news organization, can you give us a chance to ask a question, sir? Sir, can you...
Quiet, quiet.
Mr. President-elect, can you say...
She's asking a question, don't be rude. Don't be rude.
Can you give us a question since you're attacking us? Can you give us a question?
Don't be rude. No, I'm not going to give you a question. I'm not going to give you a question.
Can you state...
You are fake news. Go ahead.
Sir, can you state categorically that nobody --
Go ahead.
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Do you think President Obama went too far with the sanctions he put on Russia after the hacking?
I don't say he went too far. No.
Will you roll them back? What do you think of Lindsey Graham's plan to send you a bill for...
Plans to send me a bill for what?
Tougher sanctions.
I hadn't heard Lindsey Graham was going to do that. Lindsey Graham. I've been competing with him for a long time. He is going to crack that one percent barrier one day. I didn't realize Lindsey Graham still had it. That's all right. I think Lindsey Graham is a nice guy actually. I've heard that he is a nice guy and I've been hearing it.
Go ahead. Go ahead. You've been waiting.
As far as we understand, the intelligence community...
Stand up please.
From BBC news. Ian Pannell from BBC news.
BBC news. That's another beauty.
Thank you. Thank you.
As far as we understand it, the intelligence community are still looking at these allegations, this false news, as you describe it. If they come back with any kind of conclusion that any of it stands up, that any of it is true, will you consider your position...
There's nothing they could come back with.
Can you...
Go ahead.
(inaudible) published fake news and all the problems that we've seen throughout the media over the course of the election, what reforms do you recommend for this industry here?
Well, I don't recommend reforms. I recommend people that are -- that have some moral compass.
You know, I've been hearing more and more about a thing called fake news and they're talking about people that go and say all sorts of things. But I will tell you, some of the media outlets that I deal with are fake news more so than anybody. I could name them, but I won't bother, but you have a few sitting right in front of us. So they're very, very dishonest people, but I think it's just something we're going to have to live with.
I guess the advantage I have is that I can speak back. When it happens to somebody that doesn't have this -- doesn't have that kind of a megaphone, they can't speak back. It's a very sad thing. I've seen people destroyed. I've seen people absolutely destroyed. And I think it's very unfair. So, all I can ask for is honest reporters.
Yes?
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I just wanted to follow up on the questions about the U.S. intelligence community. And be very clear about what you're saying. Do you trust your U.S. intelligence officials? And what do you say to foreign policy experts who say you're actually weakening national security by waging this war of words against that community?
Intelligence agencies are vital and very, very important. We are going to be putting in, as you know, Mr. Pompeo and others, you know the Senator Dan Coats. We're going to be putting in some outstanding people. Within 90 days, they're going to be coming back to me with a major report on hacking.
I want them to cover this situation. I also want them, however, to cover, maybe most importantly -- because we're hacked by everybody -- you know, the United States, our government, out of a list of 17 in terms of industries is the worst, it's number 17, in terms of protection.
If you look at the retail industry, if you look at the banking industry, various industries, out of 17 industries -- they put this in the category of an industry -- the United States is last in terms of protecting, let's say, hacking defense. Like we had a great hacking defense at the Republican National Committee.
That's why we weren't hacked. By the way, we were told that they were trying to hack us, but they weren't able to hack. And I think I get some credit because I told Reince, and Reince did a phenomenal job, but I said I want strong hacking defense.
The Democratic National Committee didn't do that. Maybe that's why the country runs so badly that way. But I will tell you -- wait -- wait -- wait, let me finish. Within 90 days, we will be coming up with a major report on hacking defense, how do we stop this new phenomena -- fairly new phenomena - because the United States is hacked by everybody.
That includes Russia and China and everybody -- everybody. OK.
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Go ahead -- go ahead.
Mr. President-elect, you said, just now, that you believe Russia indeed was responsible for the hacking of the DNC and John Podesta's emails, et cetera.
All right, but you know what, it could have been others also.
Trump initially saying that “it was Russia” was as much a concession from Trump as anything he has said so far — that he accepts the intelligence community’s findings that Russia, in fact, did order the hacking operation into the Democratic National Committee’s and a top Clinton official’s emails. But Trump undermined that here, noting that it “could have been others also.” It still seems that Trump is having difficulty accepting — definitively — that Russia is responsible. He certainly does not speak about it with the gravity that other Republicans in Congress have talked about it, or even, for that matter, his nominees to be secretary of state, Rex Tillerson, or attorney general, Jeff Sessions.
On Tuesday, the top intelligence community officials testified, reiterating that Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered the operation and did so with with the intent to undermine American democracy and also to try to get Trump elected. Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said he believed it to be true with “great confidence,” a phrase used by intelligence officials when they feel very certain about the findings. For more on this, here’s the unclassified report. But all of this speaks to Trump’s temperament. He appears upset that there are continued leaks about intelligence reports — or about his meetings with them. When he feels slighted, it seems, he gets his back up, despite the facts. He may be feeling similar to how Barack Obama felt when he first came into office, looking to wind down the war in Afghanistan. The White House felt the Pentagon was boxing him in because it wanted a higher troop level. A similar situation could be playing out with the intelligence community, especially given how Trump has demeaned the role of intel officials and the job they do — even by referring to them as “intelligence.”
But why did you spend weeks undermining U.S. intelligence community before simply getting the facts and then making a public statement?
Well, I think it's pretty sad when intelligence reports get leaked out to the press. I think it's pretty sad. First of all, it's illegal. You know, these are -- these are classified and certified meetings and reports.
I'll tell you what does happen. I have many meetings with intelligence. And every time I meet, people are reading about it. Somebody's leaking it out. So, there's -- maybe it's my office. Maybe in my office because I have a lot of people, a lot of great people. Maybe it's them. And what I did is I said I won't tell anybody. I'm going to have a meeting and I won't tell anybody about my meeting with intelligence.
And what happened is I had my meeting. Nobody knew, not even Rhona, my executive assistant for years, she didn't know -- I didn't tell her. Nobody knew. The meeting was had, the meeting was over, they left. And immediately the word got out that I had a meeting.
So, I don't want that -- I don't want that. It's very unfair to the country. It's very unfair to our country; what's happened. That report should have never -- first of all, it shouldn't have been printed because it's not worth the paper it's written on. And I thank the New York Times for saying that.
I thank a lot of different people for saying that. But, I will tell you, that should never, ever happen. OK.
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Thank you, Mr. President-elect, can you stand here today, once and for all and say that no one connected to you or your campaign had any contact with Russia leading up to or during the presidential campaign. And if you do indeed believe that Russia was behind the hacking, what is your message to Vladimir Putin right now?
He shouldn't be doing it. He won't be doing it. Russia will have much greater respect for our country when I'm leading than when other people have led it. You will see that. Russia will respect our country more. He shouldn't have done it. I don't believe that he will be doing it more now.
We have to work something out, but it's not just Russia. Take a look at what's happened. You don't report it the same way; 22 million accounts were hacked in this country by China. And that's because we have no defense. That's because we're run by people that don't know what they're doing.
Russia will have far greater respect for our country when I'm leading it and I believe and I hope -- maybe it won't happen, it's possible. But I won't be giving a little reset button like Hillary. Here, press this piece of plastic. A guy looked at her like what is she doing? There's no reset button. We're either going to get along or we're not. I hope we get along, but if we don't, that's possible too.
But Russia and other countries -- and other countries, including China, which has taken total advantage of us economically, total advantage of us in the South China Sea by building their massive fortress, total. Russia, China, Japan, Mexico, all countries will respect us far more, far more than they do under past administrations.
I want to thank everybody. So this is all -- just so you understand, these papers -- because I'm not sure that was explained properly. But these papers are all just a piece of the many, many companies that are being put into trust to be run by my two sons that I hope at the end of eight years, I'll come back and say, oh, you did a good job. Otherwise, if they do a bad job, I'll say, "You're fired."
Good-bye, everybody. Good-bye.